tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post4224457363308174146..comments2023-05-25T07:17:05.918-04:00Comments on Abide in My Word: Beautiful Baptismal CertificatesRev. Thomas C. Messer, SSPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13740553600700598394noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post-38278818006986311692011-01-27T16:59:32.432-05:002011-01-27T16:59:32.432-05:00I am proud to say that I ordered the very first ba...I am proud to say that I ordered the very first batch of these certificates. :-)<br /><br />Thanks, Pr. Wolfmueller, for your diligence in making these available. They are simply tremendous, as are the Agnus Dei materials and those which CPH produces. Thank God for all such wonderful resources. <br /><br />To Pastor McCain: I don't think that Pr. Wolfmueller is failing to stick to his vocation in providing these any more than all of us are escaping ours by posting about it here. In fact, I'm quite confident that it is precisely because of his vocation that Pr. Wolfmueller developed the idea in the first place. <br /><br />Given the obvious interest in these, might CPH be interested in producing a resource similar to this, or maybe seeing if they can help with their distribution in some way? I highly doubt that Pr. Wolfmueller would be against them becoming even more available than they are now. <br /><br />CPH produces a great many resources that are of great benefit to the church. I myself have spent more money in resources from CPH in the last 5 years than I probably did the entire ten previous years. But that doesn't mean that they (CPH) are the only publishing means to produce quality resources for the church. [For instance, Higher Things has produced a quality youth magazine for ten years now without the help of CPH.] <br /><br />At any rate, it seems a bit overstated to say that somehow these beautiful b/w certificates somehow don't do honor to the Sacrament of Holy Baptism.<br /><br />I agree with Father Hollywood that it is nice to have many options, and Pr. Wilken's comments as to the timeless quality of the black and white.<br /><br />Again, well done, Pr. Wolfmueller. Thank you for making these available. May they graciously adorn the walls of many of God's children in the years to come as a reminder of their baptism into Christ.Rev. Marcus T. Zillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535667615113685362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post-5090279590750122532011-01-25T13:45:59.503-05:002011-01-25T13:45:59.503-05:00I like the black and white.
It fits nicely with ...I like the black and white. <br /><br />It fits nicely with the artwork (which is awesome) and has that timeless quality that befits a certificate designed for a lifetime. <br /><br />As for paper/ink quality, that can be solved by a trip to the professional printer or even kinkos.<br /><br />TWTodd Wilkenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17470378774431406044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post-82562086088402141572011-01-25T08:08:50.465-05:002011-01-25T08:08:50.465-05:00Call me a heretic, but I prefer the wolfsoncreativ...Call me a heretic, but I prefer the wolfsoncreative certificate to the CPH one. Though it is only a matter of taste.<br /><br />And as Larry points out, there is no limit on where & how a church prints off pdf files.Tapani Simojokihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06050897388566829272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post-51128788004958895932011-01-24T18:12:56.678-05:002011-01-24T18:12:56.678-05:00Dear Tom:
Thanks for the info!
It is nice to h...Dear Tom:<br /><br />Thanks for the info! <br /><br />It is nice to have options. And keep in mind that you can take the pdf to a professional printer and run it off on archival acid-free paper. In this day and age, some people may even be content not to print it on dead trees at all, but rather have it stored (and displayed) electronically. The times they are a changin'!<br /><br />Another option is Agnus Dei Printing (http://www.agnusdeiprinting.com/) owned by Pr. Jeff Bloom in Lincoln, Nebraska. They have been around for quite a few years. I have ordered from them a few times (even my ordination certificate). Their certificates are extremely high quality, are ordered and printed one-at-a-time, and they aren't cheap. But they are exquisite and are actually copies of real 19th century certificates - some are available in both German and English.<br /><br />I don't think CPH has anything to fear. Frankly, I think competition has driven CPH to a high standard of excellence in recent years. In fact, I would not be surprised to see CPH come out with a similar product before too long.<br /><br />As far as leaving "the publishing to the Synod's publisher" goes, it certainly has its advantages, but not without risks: such as losing one's rights to books published by CPH. By way of example, CPH published a popular children's book that it has since discontinued. The author cannot even republish it herself. This is a good reason for authors to consider Lulu.<br /><br />Like I said, it is nice to have options. CPH will be the best option for some products in some cases - and for others it won't be, at least not for every customer.Rev. Larry Beanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06705910892752648940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post-73095315598268838382011-01-24T07:05:59.582-05:002011-01-24T07:05:59.582-05:00As I tried to explain to Pr. Wolfmueller, I do not...As I tried to explain to Pr. Wolfmueller, I do not believe we do honor to the Sacrament of Holy Baptism by giving people "do it yourself" black and white certificates on non-archival quality paper, printed with non-archival quality ink on relatively inexpensive printers.<br /><br />To Pastor Weedon:<br /><br />If black and white is a good choice for baptismal certificates, why didn't your congregation bother to put up beautiful color paintings instead of just print out black and white posters and put those on the wall?<br /><br />; )Rev. Paul T. McCainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04846468267196335350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post-43861756352170566702011-01-24T00:15:23.399-05:002011-01-24T00:15:23.399-05:00Pr. Weedon,
Glad to have pointed you to these. Y...Pr. Weedon,<br /><br />Glad to have pointed you to these. You won't be disappointed. And, I share your view on the drawings in TLSB - beautiful, indeed!<br /><br />Pr. Wolfmueller,<br /><br />You're welcome, brother. Thanks again for providing these beautiful certificates to the Church!Rev. Thomas C. Messer, SSPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13740553600700598394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post-54708242253429756712011-01-23T23:41:45.940-05:002011-01-23T23:41:45.940-05:00Thomas,
Thanks so much for the kind words. I hop...Thomas, <br /><br />Thanks so much for the kind words. I hope the certificates will continue to be a blessing to your congregation.Pastor Wolfmuellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00176920585700447486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post-62214626606829891962011-01-22T20:34:01.071-05:002011-01-22T20:34:01.071-05:00Actually, I think they are rather beautiful. I...Actually, I think they are rather beautiful. I've just ordered some myself. True, they are black and white, but so are the drawings in my TLSB and that doesn't stop them from being beautiful too. I think run off on parchment paper, they'll be perfect. <br /><br />Thanks for bringing them to my attention, Pr. Messer.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post-20934432053244216802011-01-22T19:19:52.795-05:002011-01-22T19:19:52.795-05:00You are certainly entitled to your opinion, Pr. Mc...You are certainly entitled to your opinion, Pr. McCain. But, your opinion, as expressed here, reminds me of that scene in "Talladega Nights" when Ricky Bobby (played by Will Ferrell), claims that he has the right to insult and disparage the owner of his racing team because, after all, he did say, "With all due respect."Rev. Thomas C. Messer, SSPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13740553600700598394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2978485750390455025.post-15033992005470701352011-01-22T17:03:17.562-05:002011-01-22T17:03:17.562-05:00I know where you can get much larger, more beautif...I know where you can get much larger, more beautiful, full color baptismal certificates printed with archival quality ink on archival quality paper.<br /><br />With all due respect to Pr. Wolfmueller, I think that Holy Baptism deserves better than "do it yourself" certificates like this.<br /><br />http://www.cph.org/p-17413-vintage-baptism-certificate-1.aspx?SearchTerm=baptismal%20certificates<br /><br />I explained all this to Pastor Wolfmueller. Apparently he decided to go ahead anyway.<br /><br />I wish he would stick with his calling as a pastor and leave the publishing to the Synod's publisher.Rev. Paul T. McCainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04846468267196335350noreply@blogger.com